Post by BoW GaCAman on Jul 28, 2014 8:31:02 GMT -5
PREPPING/SURVIVALISM
We don't post on this subject, much, and that's probably to our shame. Ran across an interesting exchange that illustrates some of the practical problems of this practice, and the issues it brings.
Dale Kirkley
I have a problem. That leads to a question. What do you do when you got more stuff than you got room to store it? My stuff has value and is needed so throwing it out isn't a option. I try to organize and stack and such to "conserve" space but I am still out of room and still need to get more stuff yet. What to do?
Robert Speck
Sounds like you need to build another bunker.
Dale Kirkley
Well, I got seven acres here. There's a shop that is about 20 x 40'. It's fairly full of tool type stuff. I have another building that is about a 10 x 10' that is my hobby type thing, 'puter stuff. I turned the dining room into a food pantry which is fairly full. My closet is full, my dresser is covered to the point I'm not sure there is a dresser there except that I can still open the drawers. Oh, two drawers are not clothes, prep stuff. This is the best I have for I give up. I think you are right, build something new.
Sue S
You get treated for hoarding, and become famous on television. Also when it all goes to hell, I will need a map to your house
Dale Kirkley
I'm not hoarding, exactly. My stuff is usable and I plan to use it when it hits the fan. I use a good bit of it now but just rotate it out so that nothing gets old, food stuff for sure. No one wants a rusty can of mater soup.
Sue S
That is what all hoarders say. No we just went through a time with my in-law. My husband stepmom died suddenly at 60, and my husband's dad was not well and 77. The last couple of years they had come to our house to visit, instead of vice versa. When we came in the house I could not believe it. The pipes under the sink were rusted through. There was food in the pantry 7 years out of date. She like cats and cats novelties. I never thought about the connection until later, that she had at one time had 50 cats. They had turned the garage into a cat house. Anyway he passed away a year ago. It took so long after she died and he died, to get rid of all the junk they had collected.
Dale Kirkley
Yea, I keep that under control tho. If something is bad, I throw it out. Broken, same thing. It's just that I need to store stuff that is good and when it hits the fan, I will need in a big way.
It seems that everyone has some little thing that they collect. My Mom collects little dog things. She has one in the back window of her car. The little head bobbles. Me, I collect food, tools, guns, ammo etc., etc.
Terry Hurlburt
Denial is the first sign of a classic HOARDER. You are Doomed!
Dale Kirkley
I'm not hoarding, I'm prepping. I have food, ammo, clothes, cleaning products and a lot of other things that I use. I just rotate though it. Some things I only have enough to last a few weeks maybe a month. Some things I don't have even a good start on yet. I just have to figure out a way to store the stuff and keep it rotated out so that nothing gets old or beyond use. So far, it sounds like I need to figure out how to build a building to put this stuff in.
Robert Speck
You might want to go underground. I just know some counties have a limit of buildings per so many acres.
Dale Kirkley
Our water table here is so high that underground isn't a option. If I dig a hole, I hit water at about 3 to 4 feet generally. If it is really dry, 6 or 8 feet. I wouldn't trust that long term. I saw on TV where a guy put one of those storm shelter things in. We had a pretty nice rain. Those things float. Pretty good too.
Bryan Baker
Dale, look into buying used overseas containers, they are water proof and almost bullet proof. Since they are portable they should be non taxed and they can be placed where ever you want them. Or just move out of MISS.
Dale Kirkley
Well, I have a hill that I could put a basement on but my sis-n-law lives up there on it. I like it down here because the water table is good for gardening. Of course, hunting is interesting too.
@bryan, that is a good idea but not sure if I could get one around here. I hadn't thought about that. I've seen them on TV and you are right, they are tough. I have even seen folks bury them and make bunkers out of them.
www.magazineline.com/magazineline/americansurvivalguide.htm
We don't post on this subject, much, and that's probably to our shame. Ran across an interesting exchange that illustrates some of the practical problems of this practice, and the issues it brings.
Dale Kirkley
I have a problem. That leads to a question. What do you do when you got more stuff than you got room to store it? My stuff has value and is needed so throwing it out isn't a option. I try to organize and stack and such to "conserve" space but I am still out of room and still need to get more stuff yet. What to do?
Robert Speck
Sounds like you need to build another bunker.
Dale Kirkley
Well, I got seven acres here. There's a shop that is about 20 x 40'. It's fairly full of tool type stuff. I have another building that is about a 10 x 10' that is my hobby type thing, 'puter stuff. I turned the dining room into a food pantry which is fairly full. My closet is full, my dresser is covered to the point I'm not sure there is a dresser there except that I can still open the drawers. Oh, two drawers are not clothes, prep stuff. This is the best I have for I give up. I think you are right, build something new.
Sue S
You get treated for hoarding, and become famous on television. Also when it all goes to hell, I will need a map to your house
Dale Kirkley
I'm not hoarding, exactly. My stuff is usable and I plan to use it when it hits the fan. I use a good bit of it now but just rotate it out so that nothing gets old, food stuff for sure. No one wants a rusty can of mater soup.
Sue S
That is what all hoarders say. No we just went through a time with my in-law. My husband stepmom died suddenly at 60, and my husband's dad was not well and 77. The last couple of years they had come to our house to visit, instead of vice versa. When we came in the house I could not believe it. The pipes under the sink were rusted through. There was food in the pantry 7 years out of date. She like cats and cats novelties. I never thought about the connection until later, that she had at one time had 50 cats. They had turned the garage into a cat house. Anyway he passed away a year ago. It took so long after she died and he died, to get rid of all the junk they had collected.
Dale Kirkley
Yea, I keep that under control tho. If something is bad, I throw it out. Broken, same thing. It's just that I need to store stuff that is good and when it hits the fan, I will need in a big way.
It seems that everyone has some little thing that they collect. My Mom collects little dog things. She has one in the back window of her car. The little head bobbles. Me, I collect food, tools, guns, ammo etc., etc.
Terry Hurlburt
Denial is the first sign of a classic HOARDER. You are Doomed!
Dale Kirkley
I'm not hoarding, I'm prepping. I have food, ammo, clothes, cleaning products and a lot of other things that I use. I just rotate though it. Some things I only have enough to last a few weeks maybe a month. Some things I don't have even a good start on yet. I just have to figure out a way to store the stuff and keep it rotated out so that nothing gets old or beyond use. So far, it sounds like I need to figure out how to build a building to put this stuff in.
Robert Speck
You might want to go underground. I just know some counties have a limit of buildings per so many acres.
Dale Kirkley
Our water table here is so high that underground isn't a option. If I dig a hole, I hit water at about 3 to 4 feet generally. If it is really dry, 6 or 8 feet. I wouldn't trust that long term. I saw on TV where a guy put one of those storm shelter things in. We had a pretty nice rain. Those things float. Pretty good too.
Bryan Baker
Dale, look into buying used overseas containers, they are water proof and almost bullet proof. Since they are portable they should be non taxed and they can be placed where ever you want them. Or just move out of MISS.
Dale Kirkley
Well, I have a hill that I could put a basement on but my sis-n-law lives up there on it. I like it down here because the water table is good for gardening. Of course, hunting is interesting too.
@bryan, that is a good idea but not sure if I could get one around here. I hadn't thought about that. I've seen them on TV and you are right, they are tough. I have even seen folks bury them and make bunkers out of them.
www.magazineline.com/magazineline/americansurvivalguide.htm